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Leda, I complained to Tina yesterday. It's not fair to sites like yours and the honest ones when this crap goes on. I was disappointed when I found the practice going on with Shemale Central and their link to their G.O.D. site. I personally resent my browser being hijacked with a 'load' back to Tina's in a second window. I no longer start my surfing adventures, of this kind, there. I've bookmarked your page to check your daily pic and on to Tina's from here. Great job you're doing, keep up the good work.
Curious <Toray@usa.net>
Billings, MT USA -

I just checked out G.O.D. and "I CAN'T BELIVE IT". Jim is already the biggest hitting site. This has got to be a mistake. Maybe, Jim helped with the Site and then they added their own little Cheat thingies. Hopefully, this is the case because I would be really disappointed. Leda...
Leda <leda@ledamay.com>
TrotWood, OH USA -

First of all I'd like to say that I think Leda has a fantastic site and is doing a wonderful job providing a quality service. For this reason, she has been the only site to ever receive my "Pick Of The Week" two weeks in a row. Each I week I try to highlight a really good site that I highly recommend. Not only is Leda providing Quality service, but her heart is in the right place!Next I would like to address curious about SheMale Central's "practices". Our link to our G.O.D. site does not include a second browser to load after leaving SMC, or upon arriving at G.O.D. The script to load a second browser is on G.O.D.'S end, and is only activated when leaving the index page of G.O.D. While I do not use this on SheMale Central, I can not totally agree that the practice is "cheating", would this imply that Geo City cheats? Since they now use this on all their free sites.It is a reasonable way to advertise or promote sponcers, or whatever. Granted, it can be annoying as hell when over done! But a simple smaller screen being loaded on a second browser usually smaller in size is a common practice among even the most respected companies! If people are that put off by this all they have to do is turn off their java on their browser. More importantly, according to Tina, hits of that nature are not counted anyway. Which brings me to my next subject.Just what is "cheating" then? And how accurate is Tina's List? I have been wondering about this for some time now. Ever notice that before you get to Tina's list, you stop at an advertisement page for "Hot Steamy Men"? Gee, what's that got to do with the Top 100 TV/TG/TS List? I don't see anyone questioning this. It's unfortunate that Tina's list does not indicate how many referrals she sends out, and is only updated once a day instead of every 30 minutes or every hour. I have tried to interview Tina, but she has never responded to my request. That's ok, because I still believe that there is more good than bad coming out of her List Page. I am looking in to starting a REAL Top 50 list in the near future that will be just like all the other Top 50 Lists. You will not only see the number of referrals coming in but also see the number going out. And it will be updated every 30 minutes. Such a program is not cheap, but worth it I believe.So what is cheating? Blind links? Pop-up screens? Auto-reloaders? How about Tina's rule of thumb, "A rule of thumb is if you are not sending a visitor by clicking on a link that tells people where they are going then you are cheating." If we accept this literally, than Tina is cheating by her own definition, since we have to see her advertisement page for "Hot Steamy Men" before we get to the list. Perhaps a more accurate and fair definition might be sites that put very little work and effort in to service, and try to make themselves look greater than they really are. Or perhaps setting up bogus sites to redirect traffic to promote another site.I don't claim to be perfect, but the one thing I am good at is promoting my site and providing quality service. I will not just sit back and be idle while other sites are infating their hits by one way or another. Case in point, Alicia Alexandria's Hideout II, on Tina's list, is an obvious trick to redirect traffic to SheMale Yum. A geo city page with only 3000 hits sending Tina 2517 hits. Obviously someone from a high traffic site is redirecting the hits to Alicia's page. If you go to the page you find nothing but a shemale yum banner and 3 links to guess where! Gee, guess that's ok. It's ok with me, because if I need to, I can deal with it effectively.So what the heck is cheating? You tell me, because I see so much crap going down all the time, and when ever I try to speak out on it, I get shrugged off. I've decided to concentrate on SheMale Central only! We will be getting a complete face lift soon, I have at least one new model in the works and a Top 50 List Page coming soon. I will continue to provide the very best level of service I can! All I ask is that before you judge others, look at youself first, do you practise what you preach? And if you must judge me by my "practises", judge me by by contributions and service as well, and take a better look around. I don't care what webmasters do on their sites, or how they promote their sites, but if someone is ripping the public out of hard earned cash, or copy rights, then you have my attention!Thank You and Goodnite.Jim
SheMale Central <jim@shemalecentral.com>
Rochester, NY USA -

Wow... I was sitting here working on this page and when I refreshed there was your posting Jim. I thank you for the Site compliment as well. I really do not look at my Site as Providing a service. Sounds too business like... It really is "My Life" I have put on here. I am just trying to be me and keep my Exhibitionistic (that's a Mouth full) desires going and be able to be a part of "It All". After reading your post... it made me feel like I am going Over-Board to some extremes with "All This"... you are right in a lot you say but, still... "Cheating is Cheating" I have been speaking in email and ICQ to a lot of people and they feel the same way. I just wish they'd jump in here so we can make this a public discussion for everyone to see. Geocities and the Popup Window is because they are a totally free service and they are not trying to get anywhere in a "Premium" TOP Site list. It is only to help them promote and sell their service to new free users and paying customers. Think about it, thay have that right! Maybe Tina is really busy and just does not have the time to check-up on these "Fuck-uPs" that cheat. "I am sorry" but, it pisses me off! You know damn well they are only trying to create some quickie look good site and take what they can before they bail out with what they got. Just making this MSG Board thing here I spent a good 12 hours over the past two days setting it up. The more I think about those doing what they are doing the Pist'er (Is that a word) I get! Anyway... I am glad to hear that you had nothing to do with the Popup windows. I liked what "curious" up above had to say about that. "The hi-Jacking" of my browser. Leda...
Ledapants... <leda@ledamay.com>
oh USA -

Well i just wanted to add some comments about Jim from Shemale Central. It is too bad that I had given him permision in the past for him to post my pictures on his site. I had always thought that he was running a free and honest board but i was shocked this morning when i was forwarded a reply to my producers letter where you can see a copy somewhere on this site. It seems that Jim will give me only the favorable review of my new site as long as he can use my pictures on his banner to advertise his site. It seems that Jim himself thinks he is some type of 'Shemale Guru" or leader and that whatever he says is the spoken truth.... well this may be true ONLY IF he BENEFITS from it.... I think he may have taken Shemale Central to a new concept. Shemale "Control" Central. I am just shocked by his god like attiude... Shemale Central you claim to be the source of all shemale news... I think you are the source of your own beneficial NEWS ..... regards... Michelle Myles ... Tgirls.com
Michelle <vivi@tiac.net>
Boston, MA USA -

Leda, so glad you took the time to point a few things out about what really goes on with some of these "more popular" sites! I happen to be Leda's BF and I know she has spent endless days and months trying to create a diverse and honest page. My mother always used to say, "eventually the chickens come to roost." I believe your page Leda, clearly demonstrates all the hard work you have put into it. I am proud to be your life partner and watch your work being appreciated by others.
Pharm <pharm@donet.com>
Trotwood, OH USA -

Awww.. Sweetie! He must want some loviN' tonight? hehehehe Ummm, thank you hon. See why I love him so much peoples...Ledapants...
The Bad Half <Leda@ledamay.com>
USA -

I just wanted to say, that I am impressed with the informationthat is provided on Leda's site. I also do not like thecheaters as it hurts those hard working people like Leda.It shows that she has taken the time to inform her fans and friendsalike about issues that effect us all.Thanks Leda!Mookster
Mookster <Webmaster@mookster.net>
Kapolei, HI USA -

In regards to what Jim of Shemale Central said in his posting.....Comparing what is going on to Geocities is an inaccurate 'anal'ogy. To begin with; they offer a service in which the practice is agreed upon in the begining in exchange for the page and anyone that goes there knows a second browser is going to launch. What I feel is the point here is that the whole purpose of Tina's page is to give an accurate measure of websites surfers feel are worthy of votes. Html code that casts the vote is the doing of the webmaster, not the surfer. The sad fact is that there use to be a place where one with a 'Curious' nature could go and find the most popular sites of this kind, but thanks to the 'business' of this business that is no longer true.
Curious <Toray@usa.net>
Billings, Mt USA -

What a MESS!!! I had earlier posted some really ummm, "Harsh" stuff about Shemale Central. I read some things that originally had me way Pissed when I read it. I guess, it got Jim's attention cuz He called me and umm, explained some things to me within a half hour of my posting it on my page. I am not out to hurt anyone but, when I read what I read I got P.O'd and went for the throat! After talking to him and hearing his side I removed it. People all have bad days and Jim was definately having one. I just did not like seeing Big Bussiness come into play and hurting us little people. I refuse to have a "big business" attitude and will always speak my mind, Truth! Jim's site does more good than most sites and he does generate lots and lots of traffic for everyone. Like you said Jim, I jump the gun and go by my heart/gut feeling without thinking things all the way through. I was too harsh and I am sorry for that. And thanks for calling me. You did show concern for us Wee People even if deep down I think you were covering your ass, it, you still showed concern. Which we all would wanna do, cover our ass that is, truth! HuGs, and thanks for making the changes to your site concerning all this much appreciated by all "I am sure"! And your Site is Still Kick Butt no matter what anyone says. Leda...
Leda <Leda@ledamay.com>
Trotwood, OH USA -

I would like to make a public apology to Michelle. I am very sorry I let my hot temper and stuburness effect our friendship. I can only ask that you accept my apology, but will not hold ill feelings against you, if you choose not toI would very much be honored to put your pics back on SMC, but will hold off until I know for sure it's ok with you.Jim
SheMale "Controless" Self-Centered <jim@shemalecentral.com>
Rochester, NY USA -

Okay...I *CAN* believe this is going on...We are talking about peoples here...I do think it is silly, though. There is no point in rigging things to get extra hits! If you get hit X amount of times in a day...you get hit X amount...contests and the likes are fun, but rigging the outcome is a little juvenile, at best. :shrug: They are gonna do what they want to do...Thank you for the information, though...It's good to be aware of these things. :)
heather <echo1976@hotmail.com>
Houston, TX USA -

Hello, I am tina of tina's Top 100 TV/TS/TG and tina's little tease page and tina's amateur sissy showcase. I read the postings on here with much interest and just wanted to say a few things. First I want to say to Leda, you are right! WHAT A MESS!!! When I started this list I had no idea that it would cause so many problems. To be honest, it's not fun anymore when these things happen and I want it to be fun. Second, about my list. I get it for free from the folks at xxxreferal.com. You can get one to. Just go there! They give it for free in return for the opening banner which I get no income from. My links page makes no money for me. I hope that clears up the Hot Steamy Men banner thing! Third, I had lots and lots of complaints from the girls listed on my page about sites cheating. These complaints were from the girls who just have their homepages listed and are not in it for the money. I had been watching closely the sites that were cheating and found a way to not count the hits from those pages at those sites. I don't have time to check each and every site so I check random sites and any site that has a huge jump in hits from one day to the next. There were so many sites cheating that it caused my program to crash. That is when I decided to stop threatening to remove cheating sites and just do it. For the record, the first site to cheat was Gallery of Delight. Fourth, if you want to see unbiased reviews or shemale sites try SheMale Yum! Fifth, Jim from Shemale Central is a pain in the butt! "Bogus Sites to redirect traffic"? Well, there was one site that no one ever saw because I didn't let it on. Guess where it redirected traffic to??? Vivi is right, he does think he's THE "Shemale Guru". He's going to start a REAL top 50 list so he can control it and slam anyone he doesn't like. He couldn't control this sissy bitch and he never will. This bitch has balls but then you already knew that. tina
tina <sissytina@usa.net>
USA -

Hello everyone, it's me Jim from SheMale Central again. I won't take up too much of Leda's bandwidth this time. I will instead direct you to a page I have set-up to address the issues concerning me on this board. It is not a counter arguement or an attempt to excuse or cover up. Folks that have known me for awhile already know that's not my style. Yes I can be a real asshole! Fact is I'm probably a shoe in for this months "Asshole Of The Month" Award!Any way I hope you take the time to come over and read my reply, it was much too long to post here. For those who may not care to see it, pitty, because I don't try to excuse any of my behavior, I face up to it.Hope you check it out. Thank you Leda for allowing me to say my piece.http://www.shemalecentral.com/sorry.html
SheMale Central <jim@shemalecentral.com>
Rochester, NY USA -

CORRECTION: The link to the free top 50 list is at http://www.xxxreferral.com/ not http://www.xxxreferal.com/. Sorry for the typo. tina
tina <sissytina@usa.net>
USA -

Michelle...Having just read through your list of comments I was really surprised at the attitude that She Male Central had regarding the unauthorized use of your picture on their banners. and then threatening to remove all traces of you if the unauthorized picture is not used. Sounds like extorshion to me. It is a VERY simple CYA process that all wise webmasters employ: ASK FIRST!! It saves a lot of grief in the long run.Nice site Leda, and thanks for your help.Ragtop
Ragtop <ragtop@ragtop.com>
Denver, CO USA -

Just for the record, I did have prior permission to use Michelle's pictures, a fact that Michelle was good enough to all ready point out in her post on this board. The problem was I didn't remove them as soon as they wanted me to, and I was I jerk about it. I've been accused of a lot of things and if the shoe fits, give me hell. If you must continue to roast me, please stay with the facts. Which I remind you that I have admitted to and being a complete fool. But I will not stand for credit I do not deserve.Jim
SheMale Central <jim@shemalecentral.com>
USA -

I must be the only one that hates Popups with a passion! hard to believe people do this shit and the top100list let them get away with it. I guess it helps the top100 list get better rating by cheating as well, on the other list. All those hits are fakes though, and it makes the bullshit sites move all the good ones down. What a Crock! Leda
Leda <Leda@ledamay.com>
Trotwood, OH USA - Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 11:53:25 (MST)

OHH don't even get me started.When I first started surfing the web in Adult web pages is was a mess.I remember when I clicked on a link and was BOMBARDED by six different other links.I could go on and on about how that sucks and how p'oed I got...but I am SURE you have all been there!!
R <MDewFreak2@aol.com>
Detroit, Mi USA - Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 19:53:39 (MST)

Boy!!! Shemale sites are popping up everywhere! Some good and some bad.. What is this? I like what Vivi said, "What is this, SHEMALE GOLDRUSH"? heheheThat's okay... they can popup all they want! :-)~~~~
Leda <Leda@!ledamay.com>
Trotwood, OH USA - Friday, March 06, 1998 at 11:31:49 (MST)

http://home.earthlink.net/~tashats/ She advertises pictures of herself and pictures of Kelly Micheals, in fact the link i clicked and paid on said I was joining Kelly Micheals site ran by tasha TS. All that was in there was 3 or 4 crappy pics of Tasha and some newgroup spam pics. What a rip off. Then she says Kelly Micheals made her take the pics off her site. Seems suspicious since tasha is also the webmaster of Kelly Micheals web site. Also she has stolen this months pics from Tgirls which is a very good original web site. This Tasha should be shut down.
Craig <cbarn@cableregina.com>
Canada - Tuesday, April 07, 1998 at 11:27:35 (MST)

I agree Craig! Michelle's page is awesome and she's really sweet. We've kinda been like, partners in crime over the internet through all this and have seen so many ripoff sites popup you wouldn't believe! Or wait, you probably would! hehehe. It pisses us both off when they do. I can ICQ Michelle anytime or her I, and we are always here working on our sites. Never fails! There are no other sites like hers and mine. Then these wanna bees snatch some PiCs or grap some from the news group and toss together a piece of crap page. They cheat on the list long enough to look good, make a few bucks, and then disappear with your money and not even delivering the goods! I've learned to get use to it. They come and go to much to worry about it when you know it won't stop. Leda
Leda <Leda@ledamay.com>
Trotwood, Oh USA - Sunday, May 10, 1998 at 08:30:48 (MST)

Hey Leda It was great to chat with you the other day. You have a real great sight here!! I hope that you will be able to make it to the party we will be having in Ft Lauderdale this fall. Anyway keep up the good work you sexy thing. S-Fla-Guy/Paul
S-Fla-Guy <flaguy@hotmail.com>
Ft Lauderdale, FL USA - Saturday, July 11, 1998 at 05:57:33 (MST)

Hey!! I am interested in hooking up with bi and gay men in the Seattle area. Serious inquiries only please. Picture or info to John at: 7538 NW 13th, Seattle, WA 98117 or 206-782-4682
John <Hefna@juno.com>
Seattle, WA USA - Friday, July 17, 1998 at 16:26:02 (MST)

i love your tits ledamay i want to suck them and other spots as well
jakkim
LA, CA USA - Saturday, July 18, 1998 at 19:12:22 (MST)

Leda, I ain't queer, but I would have liked to be involved in that pic of You, Troy and Aron. I would love to suck your cock and fuck you in your ass while I give you a reach around and jerk you off. You are as hot as any pro. I would like us both to be in nylons and high heels while fucking each other. Scoot
scooter trash <tbell@frontiernet.net>
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, August 25, 1998 at 21:43:34 (MST)

ajax
john <emmelotj@tref.nl>
houten, holland - Saturday, September 05, 1998 at 18:14:53 (MST)

AngelQ here...Just saying hi sweetie.... just read some messages on ya board...didnt know people can make such a mess/prob about nothing... hey, keep up the good work... great site... kisses, see ya in LOL...
AngelQ <Angelq@freemail.nl>
Amsterdam, Netherlands - Wednesday, October 14, 1998 at 15:07:33 (MST)

No one says the says it is as well as Ledamay about the hard work that goes into the construction of websites. As capitalizing sites make an Adult Check every morning over coffee...coated them with banner links leading people to a circle of deciet: many are up all night working to bring a better experience to their members and visitors. It is a job that requires a profound love and devotion, since making and designing as well as maintaining a website takes a geat deal of freedom away from its creator as hours upon hours of time are given to the creation of the presentation so many disregard and do not appreciate. With so many bad experiences for visitors on the internet...in a world where those who are no longer new, but aware of the conditions surrounding the online experience; finding a website that you feel comfortable with that brings you a sense of "home" and a wonderful experience is important. When you find what fulfills your heart, stay in that ecstacy. For websites to the new online are blind to the visitor....and you never know what you may get. As you view Ledamay's website, as confusing as you may find it, try to find patience and humor and realize it is a place of creative joy for the person who designed it. Every page has a moment of someones life, someones thoughts, someones expressions, someone who cared to share a piece of themselves with you completely. That, is the joy of Ledamays website. To be in the world with her as she shares herself, in precious moments personally....without judgeing anyone, needing not to be judged. When my website was new and I was not there with it and everyone was a wolf at the door......over a year ago. Ledamay, without knowing me, took a animated prizm from my website, she placed at her website as an award. If she only knew how many tears during those days I cried myself to sleep in. I dont know why she did that, but if anyone were ever an angel it had to be Ledamay.....because to me it said: "I see you" and she did see me. As another website was using my domain name and I turned my back on it, she saw me. Now, whenever I want to feel loved, or laugh.....or need to feel happy....I visit Ledamays website. I may have been in the hospital 4 times since that prizm was an "award", I may watch top lists go up and down and up and down, I may work constucting pages 30 hours straight, I may be one of the top designers online....But I will always love Ledamay in a special way. Because I know, as so many transgender women online do.....here, I am loved. Join! Samantha Shemale Connection Website
Samantha <superstarts@hotmail.com>
Beverly Hills , CA USA - Monday, November 09, 1998 at 06:23:29 (MST)

TESTING!!!
Leda <Leda@ledamay.com>
USA - Saturday, January 08, 2000 at 23:51:23 (EST)

TESTING!!!!
LEDA <Leda@ledamay.com>
USA - Saturday, January 08, 2000 at 23:53:42 (EST)

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